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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.11 14:21:00 -
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As we move forward in DUST's production, I'd like to see the EVE/DUST link grow stronger. I feel that once EVE players are actually interested in DUST we will see an influx of players due to positive word of mouth. I went about thinking how the EVE/DUST link could be strengthened in a way that really adds immersion, a sci-fi feel, and a way for both EVE and DUST players to benefit from the link.
It begins with PC
At some point in the future, an update should bring about PC districts generating resources. Those resources are....
Micro Organisms
Carbon Compounds
Planktic Colonies
Non-CS Crystals
Ionic Solutions
Autotrophs
Reactive Gas
Noble Gas
Suspended Plasma
Noble Metals
Complex Organisms
Base Metals
Felsic Magma
Heavy Metals
Aqueous Liquids
Some of you may notice that these are the resources from EVE's Planetary Interaction System. While some capsuleers may still prefer doing PI themselves, I'm sure plenty would be happy to have we DUST mercs gather resources for them. Planets will generate resources that line up with the type of planet it is. For example, you're not going to see Aqueous Liquids on a Lava World. Different PC districts will have different resources under them or near them. Corps will now have the option to scan planets in M.H. for resources just like in PI. This will bring about tactics, planning, and some organized thought to PC. No longer will corps attack corps that they don't like for that sole reason (of course they still could though). For example you can attack AE or Nyain San because you do not like them, but perhaps a scan of the planet shows that the resources that will best benefit your corp's wallet is under Molon Labe's or Pradox One's districts....who do you attack - the one you don't like, or the one that boosts your income?
Capsuleers who are interested in the resources at PC planets in M.H. will be able to scan the planets for resources via PI with one change - it will show what resources are where, but it will show what DUST corp is sitting on top of them. The capsuleer could then get in contact with corp leadership and show interest in the resources that they are "squatting" on. Contracts could be drawn up, and agreements made where the DUST corp can obtain those resources for the capsuleers or EVE corp and get a cut of the ISK that the EVE corp generates for their efforts.
As PC districts are obtained, corps would then enter a Simcity-esque mode of acquiring those resources at their district. Certain parameters would have to be met before certain items could be placed. For example, you cannot place an Isogen mine if your district does not sit atop or near Isogen - you cannot place transport Maglevs if you do not have another district on the planet, etc etc. Terran Logistics Officers and CEO's would be the ones to place assets. There would be mines, refineries, shipment facilities, warehouses, and the coveted SPACE ELEVATOR. All of these assets will of course cost ISK not only to build, but to maintain.
BUT WAIT AISHA, YOU MENTIONED PVE!
Well PVE could be built into PC. PC could take place in high sec and low sec. NPC controlled corps would be in high sec. Attacks on these PC districts would not be initiated by other corps, but by drone infestations. An NPC corp member would get a notification that their district is under attack by drones and they must defend it or face the possibility of having an asset damaged. NPC corp PC districts will already have the proper assets placed, so no one person gets to place assets for resource gathering. Players will be able to mine, refine, drive cargo vehicles, or work security.
Non NPC Corp PC
Attacks can be initiated by other corps vested in PC, EVE Capsuleers (but they MUST have at least 1 DUST merc fighting for them), or drone infestations. An attack cannot be initiated if another is already in effect. For example, an EVE Corp cannot launch an attack from space if a drone infestation is underway, or another DUST corp cannot attack if an EVE corp has already launched one. EVE corps will be able to search for DUST mercs they find viable and issue contracts to them to fight for them, or simply have the merc join their corp. I want it to be very clear that an EVE corp must have at least one soldier on the ground to initiate an attack.
Non NPC Corp PVE
NPC bots could be hired to be miners, technicians, scientists, cargo movers, etc etc. Players that a part of the corp that own the district could then engage in PVE through mining, refining resources, scanning (on foot) for denser resource deposits, driving cargo vehicles, etc. Players would receive ISK in the manner of a paycheck - the more you do, the more ISK you receive. This will be a break from pubs and another way to generate ISK. To keep things fresh and from feeling too much like Minecraft, drones will be able to attack districts. The NPC's will be able to help you fight, but it is your job as an immortal soldier to be the main force defending your assets and NPC employees from harm. For drones destroyed ,a player will also garner ISK.
CONTINUED INTO NEXT POST.
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
2816
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Posted - 2014.01.11 14:29:00 -
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Fights over Districts
At some point, another DUST corp or EVE corp is going to want what you're selling and sitting on. Not only will battles take place on the ground, but in space as well. To strengthen the immersion factor, a DUST merc will be able to look upwards and see the battle taking place. I'm talking seeing laser bolts, laser beams, flashes simulating explosions, etc etc. Debris from the battle in space would rain onto the district akin to the Caldari Prime event. As ships are popped in space, you will see the wreckage of the ship streaking through the atmosphere - some landing in your district, some being implied as landing elsewhere on the planet.
Wreckage and debris falling into your district would initiate something I could a living battlefield. The battlefield would change as time progressed. A once open field may now have the wreckage of a Rifter in it providing some cover. Debris may have struck a smokestack of a refinery and created a bottleneck on the ground. The battlefield would be constantly changing and would never be the same. It would make you feel like you're a part of a major battle - something larger than what we currently play, and keep players on their toes.
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
2822
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:14:00 -
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Another PVE aspect could be gathering materials for construction of the space elevator. Instead of capturing the district it sits on, corps would have to gather materials for its construction and if the SE district is owned, they can begin construction on it. If another Corp takes the district, they can resume construction on the SE, that way you won't have a situation where the SE is never built.
The PVE aspect would be gathering the resources with the possibility of drone attacks while the PVE aspect are corps fighting over the SE district.
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
2822
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:25:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:I wasn't sure if you were done with it but I love the idea.
I'm still banging it out honestly but I know it sounds lame, but I actually had a dream about this last night and was like OMG GOTTA TYPE THIS UP
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:55:00 -
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I don't know where the little sad face beside my post came from because I totally didn't put it there, but whatever lol.
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
2857
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:51:00 -
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Compounding on the idea that ships popped in orbit will crash into the battlefield or planet, those ships could be salvaged as PVE missions. For example say you're in the middle of a PC battle and an enemy EVE corp's Curse is popped, it could crash into your district or any of the other districts on the planet. That crashed Curse would first crash into the planet in real time (during the battle) and would remain in the district that it randomly crashes into after the battle takes place.
Corps knowing that downed EVE ships hold valuable resources could either A - attack the district that the downed ship crashed in to obtain rights to the materials, or B - salvage the wreck if it crashes into their district.
While salvaging the ship (PVE) drones may still be active in the ship's drone bay and attack the player keeping PVE missions fresh and fun, not simply salvaging or mining. The salvaged materials could then either be processed to be used for the DUST corps own planet side needs, or sold to potential EVE buyers.
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
2860
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:46:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:If you want to play farmville though and stop bring a merc then you could join an eve corp or recruit capsuleers, choice is better, many of us don't want to HAVE to play farmville, a lot of players still relish being a merc. Why would you not what to manage the logistical concerns of running and operating privately set up colonies, warehouses, manufactories? I know I would relish running and maintaining corporate holdings on world we claim for ourselves, etc. This is what mercs do, when the fight and take land, they sell it or use it, if they use it they have a business backing them. I doubt modern PMC's are solely focused on one market.
This is exactly my point. As a DUST merc, you have the opportunity to "build an army" as stated in various trailers. In order to "build an army" you're going to need resources and ISK.
I'm not saying that PC will turn into Farmville, but my idea will be an option for those who want something more than just playing FW or pubs and grinding for ISK. Who wouldn't want to take a break, mine some isogen, hop in a forklift to transport that isogen to a truck, fight off some attacking drones, drive that truck to a warehouse, etc etc....it simply brings some variety to the game and breaks the monotony of constant PVP play. You don't HAVE to do it, but the option would be there.
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
2869
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:56:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:The root cause of my disagreement is that I just don't understand how lowly clones are able to call the shots for capsuleers.
If someone can give me a concrete reason how that would/does make sense then I'll back these ideas but it makes no sense to me in the slightest.
Read this paragraph.
Capsuleers who are interested in the resources at PC planets in M.H. will be able to scan the planets for resources via PI with one change - it will show what resources are where, but it will show what DUST corp is sitting on top of them. The capsuleer could then get in contact with corp leadership and show interest in the resources that they are "squatting" on. Contracts could be drawn up, and agreements made where the DUST corp can obtain those resources for the capsuleers or EVE corp and get a cut of the ISK that the EVE corp generates for their efforts.
DUST Mercs aren't calling the shots per se, there would be contractual agreements between EVE capsuleers and DUST mercs as to how resources will be acquired and distributed between the two entities.
As stated in another above post - EVE Capusleers cannot simply bombard a district that has resources they want without having at least one DUST merc in their corp. With only one DUST merc on the ground, the defending corp will easily defeat the EVE capsuleer plus one DUST merc "army" and would still maintain their rights over that district.
I suggest you reread my posts and I'll clear up anything else you'd like (no malice intended).
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
2881
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Posted - 2014.01.16 04:53:00 -
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You didn't read fully, read where I mentioned non PC corps getting in on the action.
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
2885
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Posted - 2014.01.16 07:14:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Blaze Ashra wrote:I wasn't sure if you were done with it but I love the idea. I'm still banging it out honestly but I know it sounds lame, but I actually had a dream about this last night and was like OMG GOTTA TYPE THIS UP You dream about DUST? Well I guess that is more healthy than other subject matter I suppose. Was it a nightmare or a good dream haha?
Good dream, usually in my assault a.k0 suit with my Scrambler just kinda walking around a spaceship...every now and then I'll have a battle dream too or ideas like this lol.
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